In this episode Melis and Cyndi ponder the perception and impact of humans being the apex species, apart from nature. They consider some deep questions about the distinctions between being and having and try and shed some light on why they are so obsessed with being! It's pretty interesting. Along the way they talk about a lot of books Melis has read and Cyndi attempted and they laugh, at each other, a bit. The Design Way: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/design-way-second-edition Edward O Wilson https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674016385 Eric Fromm https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25492.The_Art_of_Being https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/03/23/erich-fromm-the-art-of-living/ Sapiens https://www.ynharari.com/book/sapiens/ Sand Talk https://www.textpublishing.com.au/books/sand-talk This Human https://www.thishuman.com/ Love My way https://7plus.com.au/love-my-way Bad Banks https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/program/bad-banks